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ΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΕΙ ΤΟ Ε-MAIL:

Καλημερα αδερφε.Υστερα λεμε οτι δεν φταιμε εμεις αλλα απο το κεφαλι μας τα τραβαμε ολα.Μπηκα στο φορουμ του bitefight.org και εχουνε αφησει τους σκοπιανους να κανουν δικο τους thread με το ονομα Μακεδονια.Οταν παραπονεθηκα στους υπευθυνους για το thread εφαγα ban.Αποφασισα να το παω συμφωνα με τους κανονισμους τους μεσα απο το συστημα που εχουν "Ticket System" οριστε η απαντηση που ελαβα:

Your message: 2009-01-27 13:21:45
Good evening.
Im an old player but not a regular poster in the board.Searching,looking and reading through the board this evening i found in the off-topic session in the Countrys a post with the name Macedonia speaking people from FYROM or Skopja.This is an insult for my country those people never recognized with that name internationally except in their own borders.Every Macedonia name directs in the Greek territory named "Μακεδονια" the mother-born of Alexander the Great.This is not a political issue for us the players from Greece and whoever thinks of it like that hes very wrong and tottaly fake.Its like you are from Germany and i call you Nazi its an insult without a political effect.Please accept my complaints about the insult and the disinformation of the Skopja people.

Thank you.

Athanasios.

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Answer from: anemsaok 2009-01-30 00:10:28
Hello Athanasios

Misinformation comes with freedom of speech, as long as those users are not insulting and are just "offending" your beliefs (just as you do when u call Madedonia greek) there is nothing we can do there.

Best regards
anemsalok

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Your answer: 2009-01-30 00:47:00
Just to make it clear to you i never said im offended as you would like to think and play with the words and i didnt use this word in my previous post i said im INSULTED and even if you want to think of it in your mind like this as a "freedom of speech" i could open a new post dedicated to you and offend you really bad with my freedom of speech and my disinformation about you cause im just a human and humans disinformated all the time right?You wouldnt close it of course and you wouldnt ban me especially when a bunch of people insult or for you "offend" a whole country.You changed your statements since the last time thanks that means a lot.The thing is i didnt knew who was the board admin so i tried from here i never thought someone who only lives in Greece would respond me so "kolasmena".

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Answer from: anemsaok 2009-01-31 00:59:02
Hello Athanasios

I answer to you only because it is a Greek matter... You have to understand that as we have the right to call Macedonia Greece they have the same right too... I'm not saying that Macedonia is really greek or not... I do not have an opinion, coz we are in an international community and we have to respect the beliefs of everyone. If they do not insult and you are not offended then there is nothing we can do... They want to call their country Macedonia and they do so... I cannot ban them or warn them because they chose this name... Even if I am also offended even maybe pissed with that. i understand what you are saying but you have to understand that I cannot take actions about someone's beliefs. We have to stay as neutral as possible and don't act is an extreme political matter as this one is... I've seen people from fyrom and people from Greece getting banned on boards about this matter... Discretion is the best answer to all this thing.
In your ticket you said "This is an insult for my country those people never recognized with that name internationally except in their own borders." It is not an insult, You feel offended and I understand that, but if I ban them because of that they will feel offended too... So, I chose not to take any sides. As I said before, this is an extreme political situation. As far as they do not say that Alexander the great is not greek or whatever they've said that really isn't true wechoose not to act about it.

Best regards
anemsalok

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Your answer: 2009-01-31 02:59:21
From all the posts down this is what you understand?I never said anything for ban.I dont want you to ban those people its not their fault for beeing like this.I asked you very polite with a few arguments if you could change the name they put in the Misc--->Country from Macedonia to FYROM.This is my complaint.You wanna be neutral?Be neutral after the change of that name and let them get feel the discretion you talked about.Again i say it to you this is an insult for me wearing the flag of our country with the star of Bergina in my arm.I know what offend means and it has nothing to do with what i feel.

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Answer from: anemsaok 2009-01-31 16:49:03
Hello Athanasios

Yeah but I am trying to explain you that too. A post cannot be edited for that reason. You probably don't know it or don't want to know it, BUT in Europe the ONLY countries that do not call them Macedonia is reece and Belgium, everyone else accepted that, I cannot edit a post and put FYROM as far as their country is called Macedonia, even if you and me do not like it...

Best regards
anemsaok

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Your answer: 2009-01-31 18:56:55
You claim that you are from Greece but you dont have an opinion and you prefer to stay neutral .Oh yes you have an opinion and its very strong cause you take their side in this matter its "freedom of speech" and people can be disinformed.Greece must lower the heads down and show discretion for what we see.Noone ever insulted by this its only a simple offend dig deal.You said you feel offended too "but if I ban them because of that they will feel offended too..." you lower yourself and you maybe prefer to feel like that but its and all the other people from Greece who enters in the forum think them too you lower them too.Youre best phase was "You have to understand that as we have the right to call Macedonia Greece they have the same right too... I'm not saying that Macedonia is really greek or not...".Another thing i would like to stand is "As far as they do not say that Alexander the great is not greek or whatever they've said that really isn't true we choose not to act about it" the user SkullCrusher666 has a post from June in that topic with a huge banner of Alexander the Great writing above ALEXANDER III MACEDONIAN guess everyone is blind and noone saw that.
The cherry in the cake was "in Europe the ONLY countries that do not call them Macedonia is Greece and Belgium, everyone else accepted that, I cannot edit a post and put FYROM as far as their country is called Macedonia" of course we helped them make the perfect propaganda with perfect lies against us with "Greeks" who feels offended like you.You are the perfect person for this job i dont know if anyone ever told you that.Congratulations.
Because we started to make rounds with no end discussing the same things again and again in a complain that should ended on 2-3 posts and that will continue forever you seem so sure and steady as a rock for not changing anything and make the difference i have one last suggestion.I wanna call my territory Macedonia i think i have the right to do that right?Change their name to Macedonia-FYROM and make a new one below Macedonia-Hellas and give an end to all those bans make something for us too.

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Answer from: anemsaok 2009-02-01 17:11:36
Hello Athanasios

Ok, now you are starting to offend me... So to close this issue for good. Politics are not allowed in bitefight.org. And about claiming I am from Greece... You were the one who paid attention in that. I'm not lowering any head. The issue is closed for me. I'm not taking their side, I am not taking your side, coz this is a game... End of story.
I know that there is no way you understand or accept this. But that's the way it is.

Kind regards
anemsalok

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Your answer: 2009-02-02 00:17:41
Good evening anemsaloK.


I pretty sure you would send me this type of answer.Keep up the good work and thank you for your time.

Best regards.

Athanasios.

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Status: Ticket has been closed
Handled by: This ticket is handled by Moderator.


και το κακο ειναι οτι αυτη η anemsalok ειναι το μεγαλο κεφαλι μεσα στο forum (Team Manager) και ειναι μια κοπελα που ζει στην Αθηνα και υπαρχουν αλλοι 4-5 Ελληνες εκει μεσα σαν διαχειριστες.Ελπιζω να πηρε πολλα μπραβο απο τους Σκοπιανους κατωτερους της διαχειριστες για τις απαντησεις που εδωσε.Με λυπη μονο αυτα ειχα να πω.
Ευχαριστω.

2 σχόλια:

Ανώνυμος είπε...

Έστειλα στη γερμανική εταιρία ιδιοκτήτρια της εν λόγω ιστοσελίδας στο http://gameforge.de/component/option,com_contact/task,view/contact_id,1/Itemid,15/lang,en (μπορείτε εναλλακτικά & στο info@gameforge.de)με τίτλο http://board.bitefight.org/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=37006 την ακόλουθη επιστολή:
We regret to inform you that there is no country with the name "Macedonia" as you mention in the title of the thread in your site.The exact UN acknowledged name is Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM). We are deeply disappointed with this misinformation and we expect you to correct this terrible mistake, which is a history forgery, the soonest.

Regards

tho είπε...

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